One Thing That Most Beginner Investors Should NOT Do

You posted your juiciest actual property inquiries to the Baker Pockets boards. In the present day, we’re answering them. Hey everybody, it’s Dave Meyer right here with Henry Washington. And for right now’s present, we picked 4 hotly debated current matters from the BiggerPockets boards. And we’re gonna weigh in with our opinions on what the posters ought to do. We’re gonna cowl on this episode, whether or not it’s a good suggestion to make use of personal cash in your first deal, when to simply accept a tenant with pink flags, find out how to elevate lease for inherited tenants, and… whether or not the 70% rule nonetheless works for flips in right now’s market. Henry, you’re able to dive into these neighborhood questions? Yeah, man, that is great things. Let’s do it. Superior. Effectively, I’m glad to have your assist. Let’s dive into our first query. All proper, Henry, this query comes from Chris on the BiggerPockets boards. He’s questioning about elevating personal capital and particularly what occurs in the event you do this after which a deal goes dangerous. He wrote, I’m a newbie investor who nonetheless hasn’t gotten their first deal. I’ve spoken with some actual property pals they usually’ve instructed me about how personal cash has helped their enterprise develop massively. It’s one thing I imagine will assist me lastly get that coveted first deal and first paycheck. So earlier than we get into the second half a couple of potential deal going dangerous, curious your ideas right here, Henry, on whether or not elevating personal capital is a good suggestion within the first place for somebody who’s making an attempt to land that first deal. I believe elevating personal capital is an enormous accountability. I imply, you’re borrowing different individuals’s cash. And I believe too typically individuals need to borrow cash as a result of they’ve been dangerous with their cash. And they also’ve obtained dangerous spending habits and need to borrow cash as a result of it feels much less dangerous. I’ve by no means considered it that means, truthfully, however once you put it that means, it’s not a really interesting state of affairs for the lender. Precisely. Most newbies need to borrow cash as a result of they really feel like they don’t have any. And lots of people don’t have any cash saved up as a result of they’ve obtained dangerous spending habits. And so now you need to take these dangerous spending habits and apply them to someone else’s cash. And I believe that may be dangerous. Now to reply the query with out emotion and it certain you’ll be able to completely borrow personal cash and do your first actual property deal. However is that the appropriate factor to do? Such as you actually need to ask your self, effectively, why don’t I’ve any cash? Why don’t I’ve any cash to place right into a deal? And if it’s since you are dangerous with cash or financial savings, then it’s in all probability not an awesome concept so that you can go borrowing someone else’s cash to do a deal once you don’t have any expertise but. Since you’re gonna make errors. I imply, I used to be simply telling individuals final night time that I made a rookie mistake on a home I simply completed flipping like proper now and I’m very seasoned, proper? That’s going to price me about $7,000. So you already know, I don’t know that borrowing personal cash is the most effective resolution for a model new investor. I agree with you and I’ll observe up in a minute. I’m curious in the event you think about partnering with household and pals, personal cash, or is {that a} totally different class? It relies upon. Companion to me means you get fairness, proper? And in order that’s true. If you happen to’re partnering and also you get fairness, then I believe that’s totally different. However in case you are simply borrowing their cash and paying them some kind of curiosity, then that’s simply borrowing cash. And also you’ve obtained to actually look within the mirror and say, like, is it a good move for me to borrow someone’s cash after I haven’t been nice with cash and to get right into a deal that I’m not sure is an effective deal or not but? Like, I simply I simply don’t know that that’s the most effective transfer. I are inclined to agree with you. I do some personal lending and I’ll inform you categorically, little doubt that if somebody who had by no means completed a deal requested me to borrow my cash, I’d not even have a look at the numbers. I wouldn’t have a look at something. I’d not lend somebody cash who has by no means completed this earlier than. Most individuals who do personal lending, they do it as soon as they’re already rich and it’s a capital preservation technique, proper? They’re simply making an attempt to. make some strong pursuits. They’re not making an attempt to make huge swings. They’re not making an attempt to take big quantities of threat. And betting on a rookie investor is dangerous. Even in case you have the most effective intentions, you do all of your homework, it’s simply riskier for the lender. Now, I believe the, what I kind of hinted at earlier than, partnering with somebody who’s pals or household, I believe that’s an effective way to get began. And I do know not everybody has family and friends that they’ll associate with. But when that possibility is on the market to you, I believe most individuals truly get began in a roundabout way. We talked to lots of people on the present. Individuals determine it out, they associate collectively. And in order that’s how I’d go for 2 causes. Before everything, the individuals who know you’re gonna be most keen to wager on you and going to somebody who doesn’t know you is gonna be actually powerful. The second factor is simply kind of like legally and technically about how this works. However in the event you borrow cash from a personal lender, that signifies that they’ve a lien. they usually have a proper to that property. And so if issues go poorly, that lender, relying on the construction of it, can repossess that home and take it from you, and you possibly can lose the whole lot. If you happen to associate with somebody who has the appropriate understanding of the deal, and one month you don’t make your money stream, or perhaps three months you don’t make your money stream, or six months you don’t make your money stream, in the event you’re fairness companions, you possibly can associate collectively to make up that shortfall. Hopefully it’s not that huge, however you’re not gonna be susceptible to shedding your… property to a personal lender as a result of they’ve a primary place lean on the property. So I simply assume that going for actual personal cash goes to be powerful and dangerous for a brand new investor. Amen. Thanks for the query, Chris. Hopefully it was useful to you and to all of our listeners. We’re going to take a fast break, however on the opposite aspect, we’re going to reply a quite common and necessary query, Henry. Is there ever a situation the place it’s best to settle for a tenant with a pink flag? We’ll be proper again. Hey everybody, I’m again right here with Henry Washington. We’re answering questions from the BiggerPockets neighborhood. The following query involves us from Sandra and she or he is interested by whether or not or not it’s higher to take a emptiness or to simply accept a tenant with some pink flags. She writes, that is our second rental in Indianapolis and we closed on it a few months in the past, nevertheless it’s been troublesome to search out tenants. The primary rental we closed on in April rented rapidly with no points with an awesome tenant wished to ask everybody what their expertise is with tenants which have had a number of late funds on their report and considered one of them additionally declared chapter prior to now. Is it higher to attend for a tenant that’s extra on time with funds and go away the place vacant for now or settle for whoever applies new to all of this? So any recommendation is appreciated. Henry, take the primary shot at this one. So there’s a, there’s a few parts right here. So first it says a few late funds after which second it says chapter. So now, if the late funds weren’t within the image and it was simply somebody who had a chapter, I wouldn’t essentially let that pink flag cease me from renting to them if I knew what the chapter was about as a result of there are a number of conditions that trigger chapter that don’t have a lot to do with if that individual is. an individual who can and can make funds on time. Like individuals file chapter due to divorce conditions, due to medical payments. Medical payments are loopy, man. For certain, yeah, medical debt. Like if it’s medical debt that’s brought on you to have chapter, that won’t cease me from renting to you as a result of most individuals on this nation can’t afford their medical debt. Can you discover that out although? Like, is that one thing you simply ask and belief them on? Yeah, I’d ask them, however you’ll be able to have a look at their credit score report usually and discover out. You need to look into what’s inflicting it. Now, the late funds plus the chapter, and if I discover out the chapter doesn’t have something to do with medical debt or a divorce or one thing like that, then no, I’m not going to lease to that individual. The issue with late funds is, look, individuals get behind. I’ve been a tenant who’s obtained behind on lease earlier than and it occurs. However there, it’s only a few and much between that I discovered the place tenants get behind after which truly really get caught up. And so sort of, when you play that, I’ve sort of gotten behind recreation. It’s very, very arduous to get caught up. And so to me, I’d watch for a extra certified tenant than renting to an individual on this explicit state of affairs. However I don’t have an issue renting to someone that will have some quote unquote pink flags. It simply will depend on what these pink flags are and why and the way they obtained there. I believe that’s nice recommendation to actually have a look at every particular person state of affairs and never simply apply cookie cutter recommendation. I’m going to confess one thing to you that I’m very mad about, Henry. I missed a fee on a random bank card this 12 months as a result of I stay in Europe and my invoice went to my dad’s home and this complete silly factor, it was for like $80. And my credit score rating dropped 100 factors in a single day as a result of I used to be 30 days late on like an $80 factor. So I simply, clearly that’s not a really critical state of affairs, however you already know, if somebody checked out my credit score report proper now, they’d see a late fee. And so I believe it’s tremendous necessary to identical to take these items in context. Now for me personally, if there was a historical past of late funds and it was current, that may concern me. I believe if it was two years in the past or three years in the past or 4 years in the past, they usually might inform you an affordable story about what occurred they usually’ve been capable of pay lease just lately on time, I believe that wouldn’t concern me as a lot. That stated, in the event you don’t really feel assured that they’re going to have the ability to pay, I take the emptiness each time. Each time. You bought to take the emptiness as a result of truthfully, you’re going to get the emptiness eventually. Yeah. After which discover an awesome tenant, then take an opportunity on a state of affairs that I don’t really feel assured in. After which I’m going to only have a emptiness a pair months down the street and a number of stress. 9 instances out of 9, after I discover myself on this state of affairs the place I don’t have an excellent intestine feeling about somebody and about what’s on their utility 9 out of 9 instances, it finally ends up going South, proper? I don’t have any tales the place I used to be like, I had a nasty intestine feeling, however they turned out to be wonderful. Like not one. Yeah, that’s a very good level. Yeah, it’s sort of like, I speak about this like with hiring generally, like at BiggerPockets or elsewhere. It’s like, it’s obtained to be a hell sure. , like you must really feel actually good about it. And I believe that’s true, regardless if there are pink flags on somebody’s credit score report. I’ve undoubtedly rented to individuals who have had late funds earlier than and it’s labored out tremendous. Like I stated, not tremendous current and extreme late funds. However you already know, individuals get behind they usually can flip it round financially for certain. Life be life in. Okay. So Henry, earlier than we transfer on, let me simply pose a hypothetical right here. Trigger we don’t know the precise state of affairs, however let’s simply assume that Sandra thinks about this decides this isn’t the appropriate tenant. What do you do from right here? You simply preserve the identical lease. Do you decrease your lease? Is there something you’d suggest to her that she might do to attempt to fill this emptiness? So if you concentrate on a property, it’s both going to be three issues that cease someone from renting it. It’s both the worth, the situation or the advertising and marketing, proper? a type of three issues is out of whack or a number of of them are out of whack. And so these are the levers you must pull. If it’s been listed for 3 months and it’s listed in every single place the place it must be listed, the place individuals can get eyeballs on it, which means the advertising and marketing is sweet and the situation is sweet, then you must modify the worth. Proper? Now it could be that it’s priced what it must be for a property of that measurement and sq. footage in that, that individual neighborhood space. And whether it is, if the whole lot round you is priced equally and is renting, then it’s in all probability your situation or your advertising and marketing. And so I’d have a look at your competitors and see what have they got that you just don’t have? Why are individuals choosing someone else’s earlier than they decide yours? And the advertising and marketing, that’s simply one thing you’re going to need to analysis. If you happen to’re the one doing the advertising and marketing, perhaps you’re not good at it. Possibly it’s not. It’s true although. Inform it to them straight. Take into consideration who your ultimate tenant is after which how that ultimate tenant seems to be for a property. And is your property seen in these locations? If the reply to that’s no, then your advertising and marketing’s dangerous. So these are the levers I’d have a look at. One different factor I’ll add there too, is that the rental market could be very seasonal, which means that there are occasions when it’s loads simpler to search out tenants, and there’s instances when it’s loads tougher to search out tenants. This submit got here in mid-November, and it’s powerful. I don’t know in the event you’ve needed to do it, however I’ve at all times struggled to search out tenants in both November, December, and January. Sure. And so that you may must decrease lease to attempt to appeal to a top quality tenant there. After which I at all times suggest to individuals, in the event you do discover a good tenant, you both do like a six month or an 18 month lease to just remember to don’t end up in a state of affairs the place you’re once more, it’s simply sort of combating uphill. You’re making an attempt to push in opposition to the grain after which as a substitute get your leases renewals in April by means of September, you’re going to be tremendous. Yep. Agreed. Our subsequent query comes from Larry Nelson in Venice, Florida. And he says, I personal a rental property, however I’ve had them for some time. I’m now a property that’s tenant occupied, going to a month to month in November. It’s a long-term tenant who has not expressed curiosity in leaving. The present lease is about 500 much less per thirty days than what my analysis tells me it might be for this property. I do know it is a enterprise, however recommendation on buying a property and wanting to lift the lease as much as honest market from being a lot decrease. Henry, what would you do on this state of affairs? I’ve had this example loads. And the very first thing you need to ensure of is that this tenant really is an effective tenant. If the tenant is an effective tenant, they’ve nice fee historical past. The unit they stay in is in good situation. Proper? Like that’s gold. Good tenants are arduous to search out. Proper? And particularly in the event that they need to keep, like I need to assist them keep. Now it’s a enterprise and that you must get them nearer to market rents, however there are a number of methods that you may go about doing that. Before everything is simply having a dialogue with them and letting them know that you’d love for them to remain and also you need to work with them to have the ability to keep, however need them to know that like I needed to pay for this property, which suggests I do have a mortgage to pay, which suggests I’ve to attempt to get this value up. So I need to work with you. on that. And so I’d have that dialog and say, Hey, market lease is a couple of thousand {dollars} a month for this unit. That’s what I might get if someone else had been to maneuver in right here, however I’d like to have the ability to preserve you. Do you assume you possibly can afford $800 a month? And if we might step by step stair step you as much as 800, do you assume that may be affordable? And a number of the instances they’re keen to do these issues as a result of most tenants know that they’re getting a deal. once they have actually, actually low rents. Sure, they do. And in the event you can preserve their lease decrease than what it could be in the event that they needed to transfer, as a result of they don’t need to transfer, transferring prices cash, transferring prices time, after which they’re going to need to go pay a thousand bucks someplace else. So if they’ll keep, not spend the cash or the time, and pay 800 or 700, they’re in all probability going to be keen to do this. After which I’d work with them on both taking their lease, stair-step it up, perhaps 50 bucks a month till we get there, perhaps it’s 100 bucks each couple of months, such as you and that tenant can determine what’s financially affordable to step them as much as that over time. Possibly it’s we go up 100 bucks each six months till we get there, proper? Like you might have to have the ability to determine that out. However maintaining them in that unit, in the event that they’re an excellent high quality tenant they usually’re paying constantly is gold. You don’t need to get all of them the way in which as much as market. I couldn’t agree extra. I really feel like there’s some individuals who take this strategy the place it’s like, I’m the owner, I personal this enterprise, I’m coming in, I’m telling you what lease is. I’ve by no means completed that. Prefer it might work. It might, however I simply agree with Henry that usually in these conditions, I purchased a property this 12 months, the place this occurred, the individual had been there for 18 years, I used to be like, this in all probability is nice tenant, proper? And I’m what, why would I kick out an awesome tenant in a property that I intend to, to personal for a very long time, however on the similar time, like the way in which I underwrote the deal was to get rents near market charge. So I believe that may be a actually necessary a part of that is that in the event you’re going to throw the guide on the tenant and say, Hey, I’m going to get this to the utmost lease I can underwrite it that means. That’s tremendous. That means you’re saying, Hey, utilizing Henry situation for the primary 12 months, I’m going to get 800. And the second 12 months I’m going to get 900. After which by years three or 4, like that’s how I give it some thought. Like by years three or 4, like I’ve to get market lease at a sure level, however I’m keen to kind of. stretch that out for an excellent 10, particularly when it’s been there for many years, like I’m going to work with that individual. In order that’s one factor is to underwrite it. The second factor is, once you discuss to individuals about market charge, like I believe Henry’s proper, individuals know that they’re getting a deal. However at the least perhaps it’s simply me as a result of I like knowledge. However I like to inform individuals be like, right here, that is what issues are renting round you simply so like, you present that you just’re not making this up out of skinny air, you’re not nickel ing and diming them. I believe the third factor that at the least tenants perceive and the half that kind of makes me really feel comfy at this, as a result of it’s awkward, such as you don’t need to screw somebody over is that the present property proprietor has put this rental unit up on the market. And so somebody goes to come back in and be a brand new landlord on this state of affairs. And I at all times wish to place it that the tenant feels that The most effective factor that might have occurred for them is that I purchased this as a substitute of another person, as a substitute of some company landlord who’s not going to speak to them. Who’s going to identical to, say this quantity and be actually arduous. And so I discover in the event you take that strategy and also you kind of put your self of their sneakers and clarify to your, your sneakers too, like I purchased this property, I’ve all these bills and simply have a dialog with individuals, at the least for me, it’s at all times labored out. Um, and so I believe taking the longterm. All the things I assume I do in actual property is rather like, take into consideration the long-term right here and don’t identical to battle over $200 that’s going to finally result in a emptiness and lack of an excellent tenant. It simply doesn’t make sense. Trey Lockerbie I agree with you, however you completely want to do this diligence and ensure they’re an excellent tenant. Jeff Sarr Completely. After which the opposite factor I’ll say is that if it is a multi-unit to deal with individuals equally and never like say, hey, this one tenant, you already know, you get to remain the opposite one, we’re going to max it out. I believe you must take a comparatively comparable strategy with everybody to only be honest, no matter circumstances, supplied that they’re all strong tenants, have been paying on time, handle the property, and so forth. All proper, so we’ve talked about personal cash. We’ve talked about tenants with pink flags, and we’ve talked about elevating lease. Now we gotta take a break, however once we come again, we’re gonna speak about one thing in your wheelhouse, Henry. Whether or not or not individuals must be utilizing the 70% rule in right now’s day and age, we’ll be proper again. Welcome again to the BiggerPockets Podcast. I’m right here with Henry Washington, reply neighborhood questions. And Henry, I gotta throw this query to you as a result of I’ve by no means flipped a home and this one’s about flipping. It comes from Cheyenne who says, whats up everybody, I’ve a number of questions for the repair and flip buyers. I did two flips final 12 months. One I made a revenue on, the opposite one was mainly break even. I realized loads from each initiatives and hope to study extra. I wished to know what are your ideas on the 70% rule? Do you guys nonetheless apply that rule? For all of the offers right here in South Florida, I’m not capable of do 70% and it looks like the revenue margin is admittedly small. What greenback quantity or proportion do you search for in repair or flip properties? So Henry, I’m gonna throw this to you want I stated, however first perhaps you’ll be able to clarify to everybody what the 70% rule is after which inform us in the event you use it. Yeah, the 70% rule is a air quotes rule that took place perhaps what 5, seven years again when it obtained actual in style, which is basically saying, you already know you’re shopping for an excellent deal or you already know you’re shopping for a deal that’s gonna make cash in the event you purchase it at 70% of the after restore worth minus the repairs that it wants. So in different phrases, if the home ARV or after restore worth was $100,000 and also you’re shopping for it for $70,000, you might have hit the 70% rule. however you must subtract the repairs. So if it wants $20,000 value of repairs, which means that you must subtract one other 20 grand, which places you at a couple of $50,000 buy value. And so what it was saying is it is a fast and straightforward means so that you can know what to supply on a property for it to be a worthwhile flip. Now, the 70% rule has at all times, to me, simply been a rule of thumb. It’s not- You imply it’s not legally binding? It’s not the legislation, proper? Like- I believe individuals use it as a result of it’s a fast and straightforward strategy to give you a proposal value, however there are different fast and straightforward methods to give you a proposal value which are going to be a complete lot extra exact and are going to be a complete lot extra market particular as a result of the 70% rule is just not market particular. It’s only a normal calculation. And so I don’t use the 70% rule. As an alternative, I do my very own fast and straightforward calculation. It’s only a max allowable provide calculation. and I do it actually on the calculator on my telephone. Before everything, you want the after restore worth. That’s a very powerful quantity you must have. So in case you have the after restore worth, I take that ARV minus bills, which might be your closing prices, your holding prices, and your commissions. Okay. Proper? So for closing prices, I usually do. In my market, it’s in all probability gonna be wherever between 5,000 to $10,000, and that… counts the purchase and the sale. Okay. Since you’re gonna pay closing prices twice, proper? While you purchase it and once you promote it. So you might have to perform a little research sufficient to know what’s closing prices usually gonna price you in your market, each once you buy and once you promote. So ARV minus closing prices, minus holding prices. That is one thing you must determine for your self as effectively. What are your typical holding prices? So for me, I’m utilizing… personal cash or arduous cash and I’m usually paying 11 or 12% curiosity solely. And so for me, it’s going to be wherever between a thousand to 2000 bucks a month, relying how a lot I’m shopping for the property for. After which you must take that and think about how lengthy you’re going to carry that property for. So if I’m paying $2,000 a month in holding prices and I plan to carry that property for six months, that’s $12,000. So ARV minus closing prices minus holding prices. after which minus the repairs. And the final and most necessary factor that you must subtract is the revenue that you just need to make. So you utilize the revenue nearly as an expense, proper? Simply in my thoughts, I’m constructing a calculation right here. And so we’ve got ARV, proper? You begin with the worth that you just assume that you may promote it for. That comes from comps. Let’s simply use an instance right here. Let’s say it’s a $200,000 property. So that you stated, you already know, Closing prices are going to be 10 grand. That takes you to 190. Let’s say that we’re going to, you already know, smooth prices. I’m simply going to make up numbers right here. Let’s say it’s 30 grand. It will get you to 160 and say that in your time, Henry, you want this to make you 50 grand, proper? 50 grand, okay. So which means that you’d be keen to pay $110,000 for this property, proper? Trigger you’re promoting it for 200. You could have 10 Okay of closing prices. We stated, 30 for smooth prices, like financing, that sort of stuff. After which 50 in revenue, you’d pay 110. Precisely. OK, and so that’s not 70% rule, proper? As a result of I believe the 70% rule is doing it backwards, proper? It’s simply saying how a lot revenue you have to be pleased with. However you place revenue earlier into the equation. Completely. I need to dictate how a lot revenue I need to make, given the quantity of threat I could also be taking up for a job. If I’m a property and it’s in a neighborhood the place issues are promoting gradual, it’s obtained basis points or perhaps it’s obtained a bizarre format, I need extra revenue for taking up extra threat. And so I’m going to bake that in on the entrance aspect to know what I’m keen to pay for it. I’m not going to let some arbitrary calculation dictate to me how a lot I ought to make on that property. If I’m shopping for a home and it’s in a rock star neighborhood, it’s a beauty rehab, I could also be keen to make much less revenue or provide extra to do this deal. And so I dictate the revenue that I need to make based mostly on what that deal is telling me. So how do you give you that revenue although? As a result of that completely is smart to me. That is true of any kind of funding. The quantity of revenue, the quantity of reward that it’s best to get relies on how a lot threat, how a lot time that you just’re placing into the deal. However like… I can think about it could be straightforward to only say, hey, I need to make, you already know, on a 200 grand property, I need to make 100 grand. How do you give you one thing that’s each formidable however lifelike? So the rule of thumb I exploit for the revenue that I need to make is I usually need to make what I’m spending on the rehab. So if I’m doing a 50k rehab, I’d wish to make a 50k revenue. Now I’m keen to regulate that slider based mostly on the issues that we talked about earlier than. How possible is it to promote on the ARV? Is it in an awesome neighborhood? Is it bizarre? The extra bizarre issues that occur that home has, the extra revenue that I’m gonna wanna make and vice versa. So it’s a sliding scale, however the rule of thumb is that if I spend 50, I wanna make 50. In different phrases, I don’t wanna go do $100,000 rehab and solely make 30 grand. To me, that’s not gonna do it. So if I’m underwriting a deal that has $100,000 rehab, I’m in all probability gonna attempt to bake in $100,000 revenue. After which I’ll be keen to slip that based mostly on a few of these elements we talked about. I think about that additionally will get simpler as you do extra offers. Or discuss to different buyers and say, hey, on a median strong center sort of threat, center effort deal, you’ll be able to often count on $40,000 in rehab prices, $50,000 in income. And so you’ll be able to kind of tune your radar a bit of bit to say, OK, that is on the spectrum, the appropriate spectrum of threat reward. profile for me. However that’s one thing you study over time. Or in the event you’re new to this, like this poster within the BiggerPockets neighborhood, that is precisely why you go on the BiggerPockets discussion board and ask these kind of questions as a result of identical to Henry simply defined, somebody hopefully in your market can inform you what varieties of revenue you possibly can count on for what varieties of properties. Completely. All proper, effectively, thanks for educating us on that one, Henry, a lot appreciated. And thanks for all your knowledge on this. This was a number of enjoyable. I recognize all of your enter for the BiggerPockets neighborhood. Hey, thanks for having me. We must always do extra of those. It is a lot of enjoyable. I like, I like answering these questions. Similar. I believe these had been actually good questions. If you’d like your individual query answered both by Henry and I, or by the BiggerPockets neighborhood, ensure to go to biggerpockets.com. 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